[7.0 b4] When taking control of NPC piloted ship during travel drive, "Stop Engine" does not stop the engine

[Falcrack]

This issue was reported earlier, but I think the devs think the issue is resolved, but it is not. See the attached save. Quickly double click on the pilot seat in front of you after loading the game to take control. If you double click fast enough and take control before the ship slows down, you will be in travel drive. Then try pressing the "Stop Engine" button (ie backspace), and notice that the engines do not actually stop, it keeps on flying in travel drive.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WKvqqc ... sp=sharing

[Scoob]

Do you find that when this happens toggling Auto-Pilot will then allow Stop Engine to exit travel mode? For me, it's like the Pilot's last command is still being run as Auto-pilot, so pressing the button turns it off, giving control back to the player.

[Falcrack]

Do you find that when this happens toggling Auto-Pilot will then allow Stop Engine to exit travel mode? For me, it's like the Pilot's last command is still being run as Auto-pilot, so pressing the button turns it off, giving control back to the player.

Turning on the autopilot will cancel it, as will turning the travel drive mode on and off. It's just the issue of "Stop Engines" not actually cancelling the travel drive.

You have to get in the driver's seat very quickly (ie double click on the chair) to be able to observe this.

[Candergart]

I have noticed that you sometimes have to engage the travel drive to be able to stop it.

[TroubledRabbit]

[...]Quickly double click on the pilot seat in front of you after loading the game to take control. If you double click fast enough and take control before the ship slows down, you will be in travel drive. Then try pressing the "Stop Engine" button (ie backspace), and notice that the engines do not actually stop, it keeps on flying in travel drive.

This is happening because by 2-click you are jumping into seat with existing ship state still going (and the pilot is well 'sitting on your lap' for a moment) you are in autopilot mode which can sometimes - if the ship had sequential orders - put you in the limbo. Disable autopilot 1st. Then everything works as expected.
This is not happening if you evict the pilot 'gently'.

[Falcrack]

[...]Quickly double click on the pilot seat in front of you after loading the game to take control. If you double click fast enough and take control before the ship slows down, you will be in travel drive. Then try pressing the "Stop Engine" button (ie backspace), and notice that the engines do not actually stop, it keeps on flying in travel drive.

This is happening because by 2-click you are jumping into seat with existing ship state still going (and the pilot is well 'sitting on your lap' for a moment) you are in autopilot mode which can sometimes - if the ship had sequential orders - put you in the limbo. Disable autopilot 1st. Then everything works as expected.
This is not happening if you evict the pilot 'gently'.

The autopilot is not on when I enter the pilot seat this way, as of 7.0 b4. I think they fixed the issue of autopilot being on when entering the seat for b4, but the issue of being in travel drive and pressing "stop engine" not actually stopping the engine remains.

[TroubledRabbit]

The autopilot is not on when I enter the pilot seat this way, as of 7.0 b4. I think they fixed the issue of autopilot being on when entering the seat for b4, but the issue of being in travel drive and pressing "stop engine" not actually stopping the engine remains.

Nope. It is still that way. You cannot disable TD because you are on 'pilot autopilot' and 'throttle full stop' does not responding ofc. like it does on 'player autopilot'.

I learned that yesterday when my genious pilot travelled me into middle of I+K and F-spam futile invasion on Hatikva and regardles of my attempts, that 'pilot-autopilot' happily drove me right unto the I belly. That was kind of fun.

[Falcrack]

The autopilot is not on when I enter the pilot seat this way, as of 7.0 b4. I think they fixed the issue of autopilot being on when entering the seat for b4, but the issue of being in travel drive and pressing "stop engine" not actually stopping the engine remains.

Nope. It is still that way. You cannot disable TD because you are on 'pilot autopilot' and 'throttle full stop' does not responding ofc. like it does on 'player autopilot'.

I learned that yesterday when my genious pilot travelled me into middle of I+K and F-spam futile invasion on Hatikva and regardles of my attempts, that 'pilot-autopilot' happily drove me right unto the I belly. That was kind of fun.

Nope. Autopilot is not on, I can adjust the course of the ship, which is not the case with autopilot. Travel drive just refuses to shut off with pressing the stop engine button. As I have stated repeatedly now.

[TroubledRabbit]

hm - that's odd. I have not experienced such a behaviour, yet. Will do some trying tonight.

[JMCorp]

https://youtu.be/DYmWsntAS6U

I took control of the ship in the video that was already in travel mode. when i got to the next sector i wanted to stop and the ship refused to exit travel mode. i had toggle travel mode with that key before stop engines would work.

[TroubledRabbit]

sry - could not reproduce the issue.

[JMCorp]

sry - could not reproduce the issue.

are you using a new save to test or an old one? reason i ask is i am having a problem with the crisis mission on a save created in 7.0B3 but i loaded up an old save and it works fine. now i wonder how many of these difficult to reproduce issues are dependent on when the save was created?

[Falcrack]

This issue can be reproduced with any npc piloted ship in travel drive. You just need to double cl8ck on the back of the chair so that you take control immediately. If you cluck once, and wait for the pilot to get in the seat, then cluck again to get in the seat, you will have waited too long and the ship will already be stopped.

[Falcrack]

This issue remains for beta 5.